My Hairy Dilemma | GUEST VLOG

New guest video! Gen re-evaluates her thoughts on body hair in response to Emer O’Toole’s hairy pitted talk show appearance, and the comments that surrounded it.

“Apparently it’s now considered extremely bad form, let alone completely unfeminine to have body hair. What a travesty! Apart from the fact that I think we need to re-prioritise our media “news”, it made me question my choices and why I do what I do.

I hope my video motivates others to do the same, whether they continue on as usual or change what they do - please question your decisions every so often. Too many of us find ourselves trapped by our own choices, far too late in life.”

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hairylegsclub:

I’ve been trying to build up the confidence to stop shaving my legs for a while, and I think I’ve finally got it. It’s been about a month, but my hair is really thick and grows really fast. I still won’t wear shorts, but I cuff my jeans, and I think that’s a start!

hairylegsclub:

I’ve been trying to build up the confidence to stop shaving my legs for a while, and I think I’ve finally got it. It’s been about a month, but my hair is really thick and grows really fast. I still won’t wear shorts, but I cuff my jeans, and I think that’s a start!

Remember that time we said we were going to be in Reveal Magazine…

Before you read on we should probably note where it say “Becca says…” etc it means, they spoke to us, extrapolated that into a “journalist-y” (their words) article, which was then read back for us to agree to. Just FYI. 

First image is of the super small print down the side and reads: “Becca, Emily, Subi and Holly-Rae run a site called Those Pesky Dames. For more info, visit thosepeskydames.tumblr.com or youtube.com/ThosePeskyDames

Second image features sections for Becca and Emily and reads as follows:

Becca: Quote line in all caps, ‘Shaving is a waste of time and money’.

“Becca Rothwell, 27, a social media trainer who lives with her boyfriend in London says: ‘I stopped shaving a few years ago when I realised it was a waste of time and money. I haven’t shaved for almost a year now and it doesn’t bother me.

It’s scary to think how much women spend on shaving, waxing and laser hair removal. On average, it costs around £30 for an underarm wax in the UK and , although every woman is different, hair usually grows back within three to fgour weeks, so it’s money down the drain!

I’ve heard people say it’s “dirty” when women don’t shave, but that’s rubbish. I have impeccable hygiene and body odour’s not a problem if you wear deodorant.

My boyfriend’s seen me with hair under my armpits and without, we’ve even talked about it and he really doesn’t care. Our sex life is still good whether I’m hairy for hairless.

I shaved my legs a few weeks ago for my cousin’s wedding I only did so because I didn’t want the guests staring at my hairy legs when they should be gazing at the beautiful bride, but it’ll probably be another year before I shave again.’”

Emily: Quote line in all caps, ‘I’ll never shave for a man again’

“Emily Inglis, 18, a student from Hertfordshire, says: ‘Up until last year, my underarms were clean-shaven, but then I got into a relationship and suggested to my boyfriend that I might stop shaving as the hair didn’t bother me and I felt it was a pointless exercise. He told me he preferred me to shave. I was surprised by his reaction because I didn’t think he wouldn mind. His attitude put me off him.

Last November, we split up and I stopped shaving altogether. The truth is, I can’t be bothered to de-fuzz every day and I’m not interested in anyone who puts pressure on me to do so. It’s me they should love - hairy armpits or not. I know there’s probably hundreds of women reading this who are in relationships and feel their other half would be shocked if they stopped shaving. Maybe they would be, but they’d soon get over it.

If a man ever told me he “preferred” me hairless again, I’d tell him to like it or lump it. Women should have confidence in themselves to be who they want to be. Perhaps us girls would like our men hairless, too - have they ever thought about that?’”

Third image features sections for Subi and Holly-Rae and reads as follows:

Subi: Quote line in all caps, ‘Men don’t care if women shave or not’

“Subi Wahogo, 19, a student from Reading, says: ‘I haven’t shaved my armpits since December 2011, mainly out of laziness and the fact I don’t care what people think of me. I’ve never had any negative comments to my face, but I’ve heard them about “hairy girls” in conversation. They’re mainly from girls - I think we’re more self-critical because we’re scared of criticism coming from someone else.

Men don’t seem to care about these things as much as we think. Every guy I’ve been with hasn’t given two hoots if I shave or not. I think women are terrified by the fear of their partner turning around and saying they’re gross and have “let themselves go”. But if he cares about you, he shouldn’t care about your hair!

I was so shocked when I saw Pixie Lott’s picture as there was barely any hair there. I can’t believe people were making such a fuss about a tiny bit of stubble. It’s not like she’s suddenly going to lose her ability to sing, and thus all her fans, because she didn’t pick up her razor for a few days.’”

Holly: Quote line in all caps, ‘Why should women apologise for not shaving?’

Holly-Rae Smith, 23, a bra-fitter from Cambridge, says: ‘It’s disturbing that women are criticised by the media for having fuzz under their arms. Being a bra-fitter, I see women’s pits every day and find it strange when women apologise for not shaving. It’s indicative of the society we live in. Why are women apologising for something so natural? Do men apologise when they go to a tailor’s with hair on their legs, or when they go to see the doctor with pubic hair? No. So why do women feel ashamed of their body hair? 

It’s a shame women are criticised for being happy with the way they are. If they don’t want to shave, that’s up to them, but it shouldn’t be mandatory.

I heard that Jennifer Aniston hates having any hair down below and has been know to go at it with tweezers if she finds some. I’m surprised by the extremes women go through for the price of “beauty”. I felt encouraged when I heard Pixie Lott had been snapped with hairy pits, but when I looked at the photo, it was no way near as hair and “scary” as mine! Us Brits really need to get a life and talk about something important’”.

Fourth image is from the front cover of the magazine and shows a picture of Holly-Rae, a young women with short blonde hair, wearing a bright blue dress and showing her armpit hair. The caption in all caps reads, “Real women: ‘We love our hairy armpits’”. (TPD note - “Real women”, ugh.)

Fifth and final image is from the inside cover of the magazine and shows a picture of Emily, a young women with tied back wavy dark hair, wearing a leopard print dress and showing her armpit hair. The caption in reads, “Hairy and proud. The real women who won’t shave their pits.”

Article by Georgette Culley for Reveal Magazine.

A few more photos from today’s photoshoot. Holly-Rae, Becca, Subi and Emily get glammed up all fancy for a Reveal magazine photoshoot about ladies who don’t shave.

We don’t know which issue it’ll be in yet, but we’ll definitely post when we have more details!

tooyoungforthelivingdead:

Armpits4August: Challenging Beauty Norms and Raising Money and Awareness of PCOS

Can’t argue with a project that includes sentences like

Whilst we encourage as many women as possible to participate, we are also especially keen to hear the voices of women who feel unable to grow their body hair and, in so-doing, demonstrate the necessity of intersectional feminism: the personal risk involved in growing your body hair as a political act as, for example, a woman of colour or a trans woman is not the same as growing your body hair as a white, middle-class woman.

and not just because Those Pesky Dames are mentioned in the article (though obviously that’s a big plus!)

Amy Duncan says: “Pixie Lott being caught out with hairy armpits is just not red carpet class”

I’m Jay, my girlfriend reads your blog and watches your videos. She has found it a great help recently, finding that there is a group of women who feel the same, as our friend group around us (both women and men) tend to not agree with any of her views on feminism and being pro the choice of women in their own lives. I support her fully and have been nothing but proud of her for speaking up for her views and decisions.

Anyway, this article popped up on my facebook:

 http://blogs.metro.co.uk/showbiz/pixie-lott-caught-hairy-armpits-just-plain-gross/

The girl that posted it pointed out what a damaging article this is but I thought I should point it out to you. 

Keep up the good work. Some girls don’t perhaps comment or follow you on the internet but what your doing helps beyond what you see.

Jay.

Hey Jay, thanks for getting in touch! It’s lovely to know that people enjoy/appreciate what we do and I’m really glad your girlfriend likes our channel.

We did see all the fuss about pixie lott having a normal body, eyeroll. It’s such a shame that she had to go through all the negative press. Cheers for sending this to us!

Much love,

Jenn x

Non shaving, non dieting future bride WLTM inspiration and strength to be myself on my wedding day!

Hello hello!

I saw you on the BBC whenever it was. You were AWESOME! I was totally inspired! I quit shaving a few months ago (after Emer O’Toole’s piece in the guardian) and I too felt totally empowered and far more body confident. It’s been awesome! However, I am getting married in August and I don’t know what to do. I hadn’t thought about it when I stopped shaving (my life doesn’t revolve around my wedding surprise surprise) but when I talk to people about it…the first response I get is: but you’re GOING TO SHAVE FOR YOUR WEDDING AREN’T YOU?? (caps is emphasis for actual volume, tone and shock). And of course my rebellious self is thinking, errr, NO. Why would I submit to what YOU think I should do or what the freakin patriarchy thinks I should do. But I’m scared…isn’t that lame? I’m scared of 140 eyes (actually that makes it 280 eyes!) on me and my arms (dress has mini sleeves but it pokes out) and legs (my non white dress is knee length). Close friends have all suggested I should do what makes me happy blablabla. Sure, isnt’ that what we try and do every day? But on the day where you are expected to be PERFECT, not shaving is not acceptable. I don’t want to shave, but I need the strength and inspiration to stick with this. Help me! Where do I find the strength?!

Thanks!!

Hello!

Thanks for sharing this with us. I’m afraid my advice as a non-married, not-planning-on-getting-married, non-shaving feminist would be more of the same “do what makes you happy”.

Your comfort and happiness are the most important thing and you shouldn’t feel you have to keep your hair if you want to remove it for the Big Day, any more than you should feel you have to shave it. Remember, even if it does come off for the wedding, it’ll grow back shortly after.

However that’s clearly not what you’re asking for, so hopefully some of our lovely pesky followers can help with some better advice about finding the strength to stay hairy for your wedding.

- Becca x



 


Ever since I saw you guys on BBC Cherry Healeys tv show, It’s made me think a little about how people feel empowered by their appearance. Anyway I think the reason why some people are so..obsessed with grooming. In this generation its quite hard to stay in tact with you’re feminine side.. Wanting to be seen as a strong woman. I think women go about it sometimes bit too strongly because we still lust for rights and to be equal. You’re guys opinion on body hair just made me think a lot and I was inspired aswell. Thank you :) 
— artsyfartsblog

Thanks! Glad you found our part on the show inspiring and thought provoking.There is definitely a conversation to be had around how we demand equality whilst retaining our differences.The messages we receive often fit the Patriarchal narrative that if you’re a woman you must be interested in traditionally ‘feminine’ aspects, e.g. pink, make-up, shaving body hair, cooking, motherhood etc, but simultaneously that these ‘feminine’ interests are superficial, simpler, and less important than traditionally ‘masculine’ aspects.This gives feminism two points to challenge, and it’s important that we don’t presume one is more important or more valid than the other. For every woman who wishes to reject the confines of traditional femininity, by refusing to wear make-up, letting her body hair grow, or pursuing a supposedly ‘masculine’ career, there are countless others who embrace those aspects, but who have to fight to have them taken seriously.- Becca x 

Ever since I saw you guys on BBC Cherry Healeys tv show, It’s made me think a little about how people feel empowered by their appearance. Anyway I think the reason why some people are so..obsessed with grooming. In this generation its quite hard to stay in tact with you’re feminine side.. Wanting to be seen as a strong woman. I think women go about it sometimes bit too strongly because we still lust for rights and to be equal. You’re guys opinion on body hair just made me think a lot and I was inspired aswell. Thank you :) 

Thanks! Glad you found our part on the show inspiring and thought provoking.

There is definitely a conversation to be had around how we demand equality whilst retaining our differences.

The messages we receive often fit the Patriarchal narrative that if you’re a woman you must be interested in traditionally ‘feminine’ aspects, e.g. pink, make-up, shaving body hair, cooking, motherhood etc, but simultaneously that these ‘feminine’ interests are superficial, simpler, and less important than traditionally ‘masculine’ aspects.

This gives feminism two points to challenge, and it’s important that we don’t presume one is more important or more valid than the other. For every woman who wishes to reject the confines of traditional femininity, by refusing to wear make-up, letting her body hair grow, or pursuing a supposedly ‘masculine’ career, there are countless others who embrace those aspects, but who have to fight to have them taken seriously.

- Becca x 
LAST CHANCE!!! You have until 9pm today to watch our TV appearance on BBC iPlayer.
Non-UK followers if you use a proxy service like tunnelbear or expatshield that should make the official link watchable. Alternatively if you Google around you’ll probably find other places you can watch us too *cough*

LAST CHANCE!!! You have until 9pm today to watch our TV appearance on BBC iPlayer.

Non-UK followers if you use a proxy service like tunnelbear or expatshield that should make the official link watchable. Alternatively if you Google around you’ll probably find other places you can watch us too *cough*